Why some hens wont lay ,or take very long before they lay
By WYNAND WOLMARANS (SUPERACEPIGEON ).... Stock hens tend to get over weight in the stock loft and THIS is one on the biggest factors on this problem.
The best thing to do in my opinion is to get the weight down.....
The first thing i would do is...
-When the cock is driving the hen there must not he a box or place she can hide in , on the eight day you can put the box back and the hen will normally lay...
-By feeding you can also get the weight down
-If there is hormonal problems with the hen you can ask your VET for Premarin , usually a eight day treatment will solve the problem
SOME PIGEONS LEAVE THE NEST WHEN THE EGG'S PIP
I HAVE SEEN IT MOSTLY UNDER FOSTER PARENTS.......
What i have realised is that when the pair of pigeons who layed the eggs had for example , parathypiod previously in their lifes , and those eggs go to foster parents who didnt have the disease ,they would leave the pipping eggs.
My foundation cock a few years ago contracted parathypiod , half the foster pairs left the eggs (of the foundation cock) when they started hatching...and when i used that foster pairs on the other birds i had no problem.....
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PIGEONNEWS24.How to breed a family back to it's original and Formal glory
When I was a young fancier in 1990 one of my first projects were to breed the Huyskens van Riel strain back to its formal glory.. it was difficult in the beginning. The only Huyskens van Riel birds I could get hold of was the rubbish the other fanciers did not want. If I had one with a good wing ,one with good muscles, one with closed vents ,one with a rich eye , one with a good ventilated wing , one with a long keel , one with a short keel , one with vitality , one with a short wing , one with a long wing ect.
It was like a SCRAPYARD many parts but not a working machine....!!!!!!!!
But in a scrapyard all the spares is there to built a super car..!!!!!
When I had a few stock (about 10) HVR birds and borrow another 10.I started breeding youngsters , about one in twenty youngsters , I bred was better than the original.(hand selection only) I then used the best youngsters back to the best original stock....after a while I had realised that one cock and three hen's of the original 20 was good enough..... I used four offspring from the other 16 birds and the 4 good stock birds .....my Foundation cock 132451, HE WAS FROM THE LINE OF CICERO AND GESCHELPTE SCHOONOOG (LOT 5 X LOT 74 GIANI SALE)
This was my first step to VICTORY......now with 11 Stock of better quality I started the next generation of Huyskens van Riels.
In the season of 1999 I bred a lot of youngsters. One JANUARY BRED bird stood out of the crowd a Check 1246-99
His sire was 132451 and his dam 11494 a hen I borrowed from a friend. .She was bred of the immortal BOLLETJIE of John Giani mated to his own daughter.
1246-99 Became the new Foundation cock. He was paired to a the Trichartd de Witt HVR hen ,she was of the imports of Louis de Witt and and DB. van Rensburg imported.
the first baby 5451-99 called SOEBAT (IT MEANS TO BEG) of this pair became a Legend.
He had 1,3,3,4,6,8,8,9,13,13,13,19, 20,22,22,25,26,26...ect
He would come and sit on the roof and sit up to ten minutes before going in and then he would loose the race with 3 or 4 minutes and still become the 1ST ACE ALLROUND MILLC.
1246-99 paired to his own mother bred the BOLLETJIE HEN. Four was bred this way ....3 was useless as racers but BOLLETJIE HEN WON THE UNION TWICE...
She was then paired to soebat to bred THE BOLLETJIE cock AND the PLANK COCK...The bolletjie cock also became a union winner....
1246-99 paired to 9227 of NAAS RAUTENBACH, Bred the famous WHITEPRINCE , sire to 6 x winner , 2nd ,3rd, mainrace Millinium one raceloft and 2nd and 3rd best birds Millinium one race Loft..
When I stopped the breeding of the Huyskens van Riel strain , 1246-99 , Soebat , Bolletjie cock , Plank, CAR WINNER , ELANA ,QUEEN the NAT LOFT winner of R100000 and many more moved to their new home at the lofts of GERT SWART. Because GERT already had an some HVR birds the family that would be kept pure for the next generations..
1246-99 and SOEBAT is now the foundation birds at GERT SWART....
It was like a SCRAPYARD many parts but not a working machine....!!!!!!!!
But in a scrapyard all the spares is there to built a super car..!!!!!
When I had a few stock (about 10) HVR birds and borrow another 10.I started breeding youngsters , about one in twenty youngsters , I bred was better than the original.(hand selection only) I then used the best youngsters back to the best original stock....after a while I had realised that one cock and three hen's of the original 20 was good enough..... I used four offspring from the other 16 birds and the 4 good stock birds .....my Foundation cock 132451, HE WAS FROM THE LINE OF CICERO AND GESCHELPTE SCHOONOOG (LOT 5 X LOT 74 GIANI SALE)
This was my first step to VICTORY......now with 11 Stock of better quality I started the next generation of Huyskens van Riels.
In the season of 1999 I bred a lot of youngsters. One JANUARY BRED bird stood out of the crowd a Check 1246-99
His sire was 132451 and his dam 11494 a hen I borrowed from a friend. .She was bred of the immortal BOLLETJIE of John Giani mated to his own daughter.
1246-99 Became the new Foundation cock. He was paired to a the Trichartd de Witt HVR hen ,she was of the imports of Louis de Witt and and DB. van Rensburg imported.
the first baby 5451-99 called SOEBAT (IT MEANS TO BEG) of this pair became a Legend.
He had 1,3,3,4,6,8,8,9,13,13,13,19, 20,22,22,25,26,26...ect
He would come and sit on the roof and sit up to ten minutes before going in and then he would loose the race with 3 or 4 minutes and still become the 1ST ACE ALLROUND MILLC.
1246-99 paired to his own mother bred the BOLLETJIE HEN. Four was bred this way ....3 was useless as racers but BOLLETJIE HEN WON THE UNION TWICE...
She was then paired to soebat to bred THE BOLLETJIE cock AND the PLANK COCK...The bolletjie cock also became a union winner....
1246-99 paired to 9227 of NAAS RAUTENBACH, Bred the famous WHITEPRINCE , sire to 6 x winner , 2nd ,3rd, mainrace Millinium one raceloft and 2nd and 3rd best birds Millinium one race Loft..
When I stopped the breeding of the Huyskens van Riel strain , 1246-99 , Soebat , Bolletjie cock , Plank, CAR WINNER , ELANA ,QUEEN the NAT LOFT winner of R100000 and many more moved to their new home at the lofts of GERT SWART. Because GERT already had an some HVR birds the family that would be kept pure for the next generations..
1246-99 and SOEBAT is now the foundation birds at GERT SWART....
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